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BlackscarPostJune 19, 2017, 06:09
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I prefer not to get into a personal spat with you Martin although I've drafted a few mean things myself. I'll reserve judgment and simply encourage you to behave and support the lawful Prime Minister Theresa May.

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Meanwhile, Russia cancelled the Syria airspace agreement with the US after US downed a Syrian plane, and terrorist attacks in Europe continue...

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BlackscarPostJune 21, 2017, 00:19
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Canada Passes Law Criminalizing Use Of Wrong Gender Pronouns

Canada passed a law Thursday making it illegal to use the wrong gender pronouns. Critics say that Canadians who do not subscribe to progressive gender theory could be accused of hate crimes, jailed, fined, and made to take anti-bias training.

Canada’s Senate passed Bill C-16, which puts “gender identity” and “gender expression” into both the country’s Human Rights Code, as well as the hate crime category of its Criminal Code by a vote of 67-11, according to LifeSiteNews. The bill now only needs royal assent from the governor general.

“Great news,” announced Justin Trudeau, Canada’s prime minister. “Bill C-16 has passed the Senate – making it illegal to discriminate based on gender identity or expression. #LoveisLove.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-20/canada-passes-law-criminalizing-use-wrong-gender-pronouns

BlackscarPostJune 21, 2017, 15:53
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Speeches like the Queens speech sound a little meaningless when she doesn't write any of it herself. That's figurehead politics for you. It reminds me of the "speeches" I wrote in tropico 3 where I made a bunch of election promises I may or may not have kept. I can never look at politics again the same way after playing that game. It's like the developers mixed so many truths and satires together about people in government and the people that support and oppose governments. It's a nice mini model.

BlackscarPostJune 21, 2017, 16:00
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These kind of "lame governmental speeches" seem pretty popular all over the world. China North Korea US UK South Africa Russia and a whole bunch of other nations and communities do similar things. It's kind of like a teacher lecturing their students except with more pomp and formality in many cases.

VladoPostJune 21, 2017, 17:15
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Canada also apparently passed a law where sexual assault cases do away with cross-examination, and you can't use videos and photos as evidence in court if you're accused. What a pathetic excuse of a country. I wonder how far they'll sink before they wake up.

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BlackscarPostJune 22, 2017, 07:40
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Thanks Vlado, I used to think Canada wasn't all that bad now I know better.

LEFTIST ‘DAY OF RAGE’ TURNS INTO DAY OF EPIC FAILURE
Pathetic amount of protesters vow to "overthrow government," go home having been unsuccessful

Leftist ‘Day of Rage’ Turns Into Day of Epic Failure

VladoPostJune 22, 2017, 12:31
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Eh. Nobody expected them to be successful anyway. Democrats losing those local elections despite pouring $22m+ into their guy's campaign is more of a laugh.

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BlackscarPostJune 22, 2017, 13:03
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Well you gotta follow where the money goes and I'm personally not interested at the moment looking at their spending report. (Remember how Trump's campaign benefited a lot of his own companies because he would use his companies services to charge his campaign, similar things like that may be happening with the Democratic money) It probably helped Georgia's economy more than California's though.

BlackscarPostJune 22, 2017, 13:23
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I really feel sorry for some of the Britons who have been manipulated by Jeremy Corbyn into thinking that stealing is ok (requisition is just a euphemism for thievery). No, just because your house burned down doesn't mean you can steal someone else's. In America, we own guns to deal with such intruders.

"BRITISH LABOUR PARTY leader Jeremy Corbyn has a bold proposal to house the survivors of a devastating fire at London’s Grenfell Tower apartment complex in empty luxury homes.

YouGov polling found that Corbyn’s idea is popular among the British public, with 59 percent supporting it. Yet there has been a harsh backlash from the U.K.’s right-wing government and press, which equated his plan with a Marxist plot. “Suggesting requisitioning empty properties when empty student accommodation is available locally is completely in line with his Marxist belief that all private property should belong to the state,” Conservative MP Andrew Bridgen said."

Nauseating Stupidity On Confiscating Homes For The Greater Good http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-21/nauseating-stupidity-confiscating-homes-greater-good

For now it seems the city government of London is using legal means to acquire these "luxury" properties. Trust me, they're not going to be luxury anymore after you house a bunch of people that couldn't regularly afford such a place. They apparently acquired 68 luxury apartments for 10 million pounds. These apartments normally cost £1.6 million so it was some combination of hard negotiation of the government and generosity of the apartment builders cuz it sounds like a "steal" (pricewise not actual) of a deal. I would love to see the details of such a deal because you'll probably see future tax breaks, tax cuts, and tax credits for the apartment builders. Investors and early buyers of the most expensive apartments are probably furious with the deal though because I wouldn't expect them to be happy living with lower income people. That's just the way richer people generally are they don't like to hang out with poorer people. The property value of those apartments are going to plummet and the real buyers with the money are likely planning their exit.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-21/u-k-government-buys-apartments-for-grenfell-tower-fire-victims

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/06/21/grenfell-towers-survivors-new-apartments/416458001/

BlackscarPostJune 22, 2017, 13:33
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Some Facebook comments on the luxury apartment deal make it sound like it's just politics and accounting tricks. They could be wrong though because I thought Labour was in charge of the city of London (who are making these deals?) not the Tories/Conservatives.

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For any foreigners thinking this is the norm, all this help/support/millions raised/fancy houses/etc. It ain't. You'll be told you should've had house insurance, be given a very minimum amount to bury whoever died, be moved to some dingy B&B (if you're really lucky) and then be put on a waiting list to be housed in some slum somewhere. All this you read about is happening because political parties are trying to score points against each other and mass media hysteria.

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It's not even that - these corporate developers have to include a quota of "affordable" housing in new developments (though it no longer has to be at genuine social rents): as in this case they usually get away with providing a really small proportion and segregating it in some way from the majority of the units which are let at much higher rents (several times the rent if you live in London). This is the Tory's usual trick of taking something which was already in place and pretending it is new/extra money - they've done it with NHS funding, they did it with support for "affordable" housing in the Autumn budget. In fact, there will still end up being a significant net loss of social housing in K+C borough, and people will still end up being moved away and/or offered unsuitable accommodation as a result of losing their homes. Plus, as these will all be technically new tenancies, they will now be fixed term tenancies instead of secure tenancies as their old ones would have been (unless there is some special dispensation, which there is not as far as I can see).

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I used to think Bernie Sanders was a better option than Hillary Clinton. Not so anymore, he's just as Crooked and Crazy as Hillary if not more so and James Hodgkinson kind of proved it.

MARK LEVIN (HOST): But the narrative with Bernie Sanders is he's for the people, he just wants everyone to get a fair break, he thinks the rich take advantage of the middle class and the poor and people should have free healthcare and free college and so forth and so on. Bernie Sanders is a radical Marxist who believes in violence, there I said it -- every radical Marxist believes in violence, every radical Marxist believes in violence. Can you think of one country where the radical Marxists have taken over the governments that isn't violent? Oh I know they preach humanity and compassion and equality and helping the poor, and the middle class, and all -- but can you show me one Communist country that is any of that, that is any of that. Show me one Communist country that is not in effect a police state. You going to show me China? It's a police state. you have no free access to the internet, there's no free speech and so forth and so on. You're going to show me Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea? What? And yet socialism is an off shoot of Communism, it certainly is. They're different degrees and they are violent -- the communists.

https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2017/06/21/mark-levin-bernie-sanders-radical-marxist-who-believes-violence/216984

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/8/bernie-sanders-imposes-religious-test-trump-budget/

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448767/bernie-sanders-russell-vought-tim-farron-religious-views

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When people like Bernie Sanders campaign for free education, are they really campaigning for "free" globalist propaganda indoctrination?

VladoPostJune 22, 2017, 17:56
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Sanders stood against the system. The system getting destroyed is a necessity. The central banking monopoly getting dismantled is a necessity. If a leftist does it, so be it. Better than what we have now. I am having some doubts about Sanders recently, due to some statements. But I think Corbyn really is honest. While I disagree with his political views, at least he is not a tool of banksters like the vast majority of politicians. That is a start.

I'd much rather have a genuine political competition between our guys and commies (history shows commies have always failed, anyway) than the current globalist system of total subjugation and "opposition" parties being the same shit (look at all Democrats but 2-3 people - Gabbard and such, and more than half of Republicans - they could be switched and nothing would change - the same globalist pawns with no backbone).

And yes, I share your concerns about indoctrination in schools. Some universities are cultural marxist hives.

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BlackscarPostJune 25, 2017, 09:00
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Speaking of Bernie Sanders. He and his wife are in some financial pickles lately
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-24/bernie-sanders-wife-under-fbi-investigation-bank-fraud

Also my dear former Congressman from Kansas now CIA chief Mike Pompeo says "Intel leaks on the rise, cites leaker 'worship'"
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cia-chief-intel-leaks-rise-cites-leaker-worship-161308243--politics.html

I think that's a hilarious but accurate assessment but it's not just leakers but the entire spy/espionage/secret agent/intelligence/snitch industry. How many TV shows and movies have we had over the years about those kinds of people. Hundreds and thousands. So I think it's good Mike Pompeo is denouncing the worship of leakers but he needs to go further and apply that to the entire intelligence agency. None of them should be worshipped. Only God himself deserves our worship.

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Yes, I agree with the last statement, of course. That said, like with everything, leakers can be both good and bad. It depends on whether the leaks serve the good of society. That's why WikiLeaks and the Snowden leaks were GOOD. Leaks by Comey and similar puppets against Trump are BAD because they aid the deep state in their war against a democratically elected president, the choice of the people.

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Sanders has always been a fraud. I laughed my ass off when i saw he was being investigated by the FBI.

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